What web developing tool do you use?

boothby · 28-04-2004, 03:07 PM

So, yes; what web developing tool do you use? I mean, of course, HTML editors and such. I am using Dreamweaver MX 2004 right now. I got the upgrade from a friend who, surprisingly, didn't want it. Smiles galore! However, I am finding the new version to be a bit troublesome. Granted, the new speed fix patch from Macromedia does, indeed, fix the speed and reliability issue. However, the new layout system bothers me the most. One can only change the layout from "Designer" to "Coder" and back again. The following process only changes the toolbars slightly. I do wish that Macromedia kept the option to use the Dreameaver 4 UltraDev layout style. I like using separate windows -- it gives me some sense of organisation (however insignificant it may be).

I'm not sure, but if there were something better, or equivalent to Macromedia Dreamweaver, I would most definitely use it. I have yet to see a program to rival it, though, in my opinion. I do wish that Bare Bones BBEdit for MacOS would be ported to Windows because I would certainly use that.

Remarks? Other opinions, anyone?

Dimitry · 28-04-2004, 06:23 PM

Im with you on Dreamweaver. Im glad the new update fixed the bugs. I just coudnt edit style sheet before, horrible, but now everything is smooth.

I dont mind its layout, in fact, I like it. You can modify it the way you like it also (Im pretty sure).
Very nice workplace to work and Id recommend Dreamweaver over Notepad.

I love people that are proud of notepad coding, but in reality they're just loosing valuable time, and a lot of it. With Dreamweaver you can accomplish so much faster (In my opinion... I used to use Notepad also years ago).

Nice discussion
Dimitry

tyrsal · 28-04-2004, 07:17 PM

I'm aptly AGAINST any point and click programs. Granted, you can code by hand in dreamweaver, but that wasnt what it was built for.

being a coder myself, I go with Zend development IDE. Basically its a souped up notepad with syntax highlighting, code corrections, auto-fill code, project files, and an easy to look at filesystem.

I code everything i do by hand., including html and css. no better way.

iAmGen3ric · 29-04-2004, 01:45 AM

I was against WYSIWIG's for a while too, did complete hand code for years but have recently switched over to dreamweaver. Still do alot of hand coding in dreamweaver, but it can save some major time. I recommend giving it a try matt, quite versatile.

joy · 29-04-2004, 03:34 AM

I just use notepad.

Dimitry · 29-04-2004, 04:00 AM

Lol when I said I used dreamweaver I meant I code everything by hand still.
The little "Design" button is never clicked.

I code everything by hand still and always will. All my JS is coded by hand, I never use any Dreamweaver Javascript codes OR their style sheet editors...

I enjoy code highlight and other things that DW offers though.
Im still old skool with some new skool (mixed

)

Dimitry

boothby · 30-04-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dimitry
Im still old skool with some new skool (mixed )

Ditto, mate.

iAmGen3ric · 30-04-2004, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dimitry
Lol when I said I used dreamweaver I meant I code everything by hand still.
The little "Design" button is never clicked.

I code everything by hand still and always will. All my JS is coded by hand, I never use any Dreamweaver Javascript codes OR their style sheet editors...

I enjoy code highlight and other things that DW offers though.
Im still old skool with some new skool (mixed )

Dimitry

I would think you'd really like homesite, doesn't have alot of the usless junk dreamweaver's packed with

jesse · 30-04-2004, 07:47 AM

i myself am a notepad/dreamweaver man. i'm a novice to web languages but i'm fairly good at other programming languages.

slashcom · 30-04-2004, 09:51 PM

I used to use dreamweaver a lot. I never installed the speed patch, so I don't know how much of a difference that makes.

Most of my sites are either coded in Editplus or dreamweaver if i'm using Windows. However, I'm either in Linux or in a SSH session with my server.

That leaves me with vim. Beautiful program.

All in all, I dislike WYSIWYG, but I simply can't use notepad. I need my syntax highlighting and auto-indention. They are simply things I cannot work without.

28-04-2004, 03:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
boothby Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12	What web developing tool do you use? So, yes; what web developing tool do you use? I mean, of course, HTML editors and such. I am using Dreamweaver MX 2004 right now. I got the upgrade from a friend who, surprisingly, didn't want it. Smiles galore! However, I am finding the new version to be a bit troublesome. Granted, the new speed fix patch from Macromedia does, indeed, fix the speed and reliability issue. However, the new layout system bothers me the most. One can only change the layout from "Designer" to "Coder" and back again. The following process only changes the toolbars slightly. I do wish that Macromedia kept the option to use the Dreameaver 4 UltraDev layout style. I like using separate windows -- it gives me some sense of organisation (however insignificant it may be). I'm not sure, but if there were something better, or equivalent to Macromedia Dreamweaver, I would most definitely use it. I have yet to see a program to rival it, though, in my opinion. I do wish that Bare Bones BBEdit for MacOS would be ported to Windows because I would certainly use that. Remarks? Other opinions, anyone?

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28-04-2004, 06:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dimitry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 153	Im with you on Dreamweaver. Im glad the new update fixed the bugs. I just coudnt edit style sheet before, horrible, but now everything is smooth. I dont mind its layout, in fact, I like it. You can modify it the way you like it also (Im pretty sure). Very nice workplace to work and Id recommend Dreamweaver over Notepad. I love people that are proud of notepad coding, but in reality they're just loosing valuable time, and a lot of it. With Dreamweaver you can accomplish so much faster (In my opinion... I used to use Notepad also years ago). Nice discussion Dimitry

28-04-2004, 07:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
tyrsal Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 59	I'm aptly AGAINST any point and click programs. Granted, you can code by hand in dreamweaver, but that wasnt what it was built for. being a coder myself, I go with Zend development IDE. Basically its a souped up notepad with syntax highlighting, code corrections, auto-fill code, project files, and an easy to look at filesystem. I code everything i do by hand., including html and css. no better way.

29-04-2004, 01:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
iAmGen3ric Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 175	I was against WYSIWIG's for a while too, did complete hand code for years but have recently switched over to dreamweaver. Still do alot of hand coding in dreamweaver, but it can save some major time. I recommend giving it a try matt, quite versatile.

29-04-2004, 03:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
joy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2	I just use notepad.

29-04-2004, 04:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dimitry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 153	Lol when I said I used dreamweaver I meant I code everything by hand still. The little "Design" button is never clicked. I code everything by hand still and always will. All my JS is coded by hand, I never use any Dreamweaver Javascript codes OR their style sheet editors... I enjoy code highlight and other things that DW offers though. Im still old skool with some new skool (mixed ) Dimitry

30-04-2004, 07:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
jesse scumm fan. Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 125	i myself am a notepad/dreamweaver man. i'm a novice to web languages but i'm fairly good at other programming languages.

30-04-2004, 09:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
slashcom Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6	I used to use dreamweaver a lot. I never installed the speed patch, so I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Most of my sites are either coded in Editplus or dreamweaver if i'm using Windows. However, I'm either in Linux or in a SSH session with my server. That leaves me with vim. Beautiful program. All in all, I dislike WYSIWYG, but I simply can't use notepad. I need my syntax highlighting and auto-indention. They are simply things I cannot work without.