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[brooke]

http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2008/05/22/230779/revealed-government-plans-to-tap-phone-and-internet.htm

British Government have already done all of this. Garanteed.

This is reverse engineering. They have done, now they have to create the bugbears that will justify creating what they have alreasy created.

Anyone for a cup of terrorism?

1 explosion or 2?

[-=seth=-]

they already record all of our telephone conversations and retain them for a year

also there was recently someting in the papers about a company who was employed by broadband service providers, virgin being one of them to monitor all of your web activity, where you go, how long you stay, what keywords you use, so as they can build up a profile of you to target ads directly at you, wonder how far theyll take it, if you try to research cancer or something on the internet will you life insurance suddenly go up

[Brian Turner]

Yes, seen this reported on - kind of staggering really, not least when the UK government has such a lamentable record with data protection.

Imagine a record of all your business emails being found on a DVD in public?

[brooke]

I think the biggest worry is having your connection stopped for some 'beaurocratic' reason. Thats were they are going. Look at current corporate law and media law. All the regulation regarding representing minorities, equality, slander, libel, and what not. The internet is a bit of a wild west to the governement. What they want is laws laws rules and regulations to govern how we think.

I think that they already run and manage what i describe as honey pots, these are special sites designed to lure certain people, preteen porn, serial killers, and drugs etc. In particular, serial killers. What a better way to catch them, operate a top secret web site about serial killers that lets them know who you are etc. a 2-5 man team monitoring special searches. Suppose you integrate that the main police computers to cross reference suspects or potential suspects, ie, all males in the Suffolk region searching for info on prostitiute murders. Whilst my overview is rough, i'm sure they do it as i have spotted strange activity myself.

The trouble is, when this is extended to the broader market to police more general laws then there will be beaches of common sense such as the right to protest, the development of 'hate' law which is so vague i think we could throw the key away for brians hatred of motorway service stations.

i also think they block e-mails.

in fact im certain that an evil alliance that can fabricate lies to invade an innocent country (albeit a bit dodgy) and spend $1bn an hour doing so has not spend a few cents here and there to exert control over the worlds most powerful communications devise.

Bottom line is if they work it so they can block our connections because of some 'violation of terms' such as lloking at porn, downloading Indianna Jones and the skulls, (last night) or uploading videos of you wearing a polica beacon on your your head then we live in worrying times.

The Britsh Government is Evil.

[dvduval]

I think we can at least be careful and selective about where and when we provide information. We can stop all data collection, but we can certainly stop some of it.

[bumfluff]

Good grief, we're governed by f***wits.

First off, governments have a crap record on large-scale IT projects, and second, people will sooner or later find a way around whatever they put in place. Then that'll be how many billions of wasted money?

[brooke]

I think you'll find that the internet was concieved by the military. And I think you'll find that the government are not directly managaing it and that there is no pc (politicaly correct) or human rights put in the equation.

Personally I do not believe their system is 100% That would be unobtainable, but 80% would be easily achievable. I also think the systems are run from India and Malysia and the far east.

I think they can do alot such as block and parse e-mails, that is you get all e-mails, but you never get e-mails from people that might appear to allow you to form a business relationship that might threaten the status quo. So if you have two 'terrorists' or two 'entrpanauers' never the twain shall meet. How do you know how many first time enquiries you have never recieved. I think if there is uncertainty then they let them through. I think hits can easily be created artificially. They just have to gaugue your ability to observe.

I was thinking today, after the third call from India, that I never get calls from the UK from young entrepanuers or job seekers. If I was a young job seeker I might be tempted to sit down and call all the web design companies in my area. But in 6 years I have had about 3 CV's, and all of hten smelt fishy.

I have tons of web sites for my own purposes and none of them get traffic that strikes me as natural. I have noted alot of other things that I believe to be unatural as well, from a professional perspective which is why I believe what I believe.

Any system would be very simple in its premise. Maybe a bit like a network monitoring system. Focussing on people that appear threats in say the Communist sense, people slagging off the government for example. Trouble makers.

I believe they can 'fiche' web sites so that you can go to any site, and when you down load it, they can add a virus. Thats a virus that was never there on the server to satrt off with.

Heres a few links to give you a few hints at their pedigree

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2006_Nov_20/ai_n16853228

The face of innocence? How clever
http://www.baesystems.com/Businesses/EIS/AboutUs/Leadership/AmyShevlin/

Oh lookie, by connection to the internet has gone, I wonder why? Must be 'one of those things' tut tut silly me for thinking other wise. Now its only been 20 minutes since starting this post. I wonder how many people would just give up. Like I say, 80% rule.

Links that are not working right now for me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_warfare

http://www.iwar.org.uk/

http://www.job-search-engine.com/keyword/information-warfare

http://jobs.myspace.com/a/ms-jobs/list/q-Information+Warfare+Officer

So, i wonder what will happen when i post this?

better copy just in case...

ooh, I see: You do not have permission to perform this action. Please refresh the page and login before trying again. - Even though I have just made 3 other posts on this forum. How many 'obstacles' can I pass before I give up?

I wonder how many other people are essentially living in a black dark box because their freedom to communicate with the outside world has been cut off?

Soooo, whats working:

Google: Yes
E-mail: Yes
Internet Business Forum: No
Web Sites On Information Warefare: No

Try again

[harding125]

I guess this sort of thing will always go on. But why can't we just all get along with our lives without all this monitoring??

Gary